Posts Tagged ‘super2000’

Suzuki back in the WRC in 2011?

Sunday, April 19th, 2009

Despite total silence from the Japanese Suzuki World Rally Team since their retirement in December 2008, Estonian driver Urmo Aava states in an interview that Suzuki may be back in the WRC already in 2011. These rumours conforms well with the statements made by Suzuki in the time before their retirement, where they said that they could take a sabbatical to develop a Super2000 from their WRC spec car. Aava himself has quite good connections into the Suzuki team after being one of their junior drivers for a long time, and according to RallyBuzz he also did a test with the team recently in Sardinia. Aava states:

- I have a good relationship with the Suzuki team from driving for them in the JWRC. I am hoping to get to test their S2000 car sometime in the next year and maybe I can do some rallies with them at the end of 2010 season.

They (Suzuki WRT) are currently bulding an S2000 car but I can’t say anymore. For the 2011 season they will probably do a full WRC programme.

Of course I have to bring my own “money”  to this project but if we compare this cost to the current amount of money required (for a Stobart or Citroen deal) then it’s much cheaper.

So, what do I think? Well, it very much makes sense. Suzuki have been talking for a long time about a Super2000 car, but most important it makes sense considering costs. The financial crisis over the world is expected to go up in a few years time, which would make both car makes and sponsors more interested in sport again – and a S2000 is way cheaper to build and run than a WRC car. That makes it cheaper for Suzuki, but most important it makes it more likely to be a real consumer market for the car – such as Urmo Aava.
Given all this, my guess is that the rumour is true. The car is probably under development, and I guess an announcement will be made this autumn or perhaps during the first half of next year. Maybe Suzuki will run a true works team, but more sure is that they will sell the cars to privateers.

BREAKING NEWS: Winter season already in 2009-2010 – new season with Super2000 as main class from September

Wednesday, April 1st, 2009

EDIT: As most of you have probabaly understood by now, this was only a 1st of April Joke. Happy fools day, all!

A FIA representative in Algarve that I’ve been in contact with have confirmed the rumours that has circulated down in Portugal during the day: the WRC season 2009 will end already in May after the Ralli d’Italia-Sardegna – and then leave room for a new winter-based season starting in September this year. The main class during that new season will be the Super2000 class, with the same technical specifications as the Super2000 class used in the IRC.

The decision was made this morning at a meeting in Algarve with the most important FIA delegates, mobilised by Max Mosley – president of the organisation. The formal decision is scheduled to be taken this evening during a meeting starting at 7PM Portugese time, allowing for the FIA to inform media, team, organisers and fans already tomorrow – before the Rally of Portugal get’s started.

Swedish rally driver Daniel Carlsson is chocked but happy about the decision:

- I had no clue this was coming, but we saw already in the last World Council meeting that Max [Mosley] wanted to speed up the conversion to Super2000. Now, he has certainly done that and it will of course cause some problems to those drivers and teams that have commited to the full season – but at the same time I don’t see why we should wait for a change that we know are to come. Super2000 is the best class to attract manufacturers, so I think it makes sense to do it immediately. To me it feels like FIA has finally got their pieces together and made a good decision for the development of WRC.

I’ll get back with more information on this subject as soon as possible.

Video: Skoda Fabia Super 2000 – with turbo???

Tuesday, March 24th, 2009

The Skoda Fabia Super2000 has established itself as a well-known car this year, starting with a really solid performance in IRC Rally Monte Carlo and following up with leading the PWRC championship after Patrik Sandell’s and the Red Bull Skoda team’s two victories in a row in the WRC. However, as we all know, the car has no turbo – since the Super2000 regulations currently doesn’t allow that. A turbo kit has been discussed by the FIA for 2010 and forward, but the decision came that the Super2000 cars will run without turbo kit until 2013, when a new Super2000 specification in the WRC may be adopted and allow for 1,6 litre engines with turbo in the championship.

With that said, the question is… Have Skoda despite that started to test the Fabia Super2000 with turbo? I have no clue, but listening to the sound and the “bangs” of this Skoda test video very much suggests to my brain that there is a turbo involved. If anyone have some good info on this, please inform me by mail (rasmus@maxattack.net) or in the comments.

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WMSC mixes Super2000 and WRC in 2010 – a smart soft start or just another wasted season?

Saturday, March 21st, 2009

Earlier this week, the FIA World MotorSport Council decided on next years formula in the WRC. Most parts of decision just confirmed the decisions from an earlier meeting between manufacturers, teams and ISC in Paris (read more about that meeting here)- but one very important detail was added in the WMSC decision – the fact that Super2000 and current WRC-cars will run side by side in 2010. Is that good or bad? I’m not sure, but here are the pros and cons from what I can see:

Pros:

  • Car manufacturers get more time to develop their Super2000-cars – and also test them in the championship for real before the competition gets sharp. I know that Citroen, among others, appreciate that.
  • WRC cars open for a larger start field, where privateers with WRC cars as well as current WRC teams can enter their current cars. If not, very short entrylists in the beginning could be a possibility – which would have been boring to fans and expensive for organisers.
  • The two car classes can be compared to each other side by side, and put some extra edge to both competition and development.

Cons:

  • 2010 can become yet another transitional season, where Super2000-teams don’t register because they’ve got no real chances of winning – and where WRC teams start to fall off as their car wont be allowed in the coming years.
  • Understanding of the sport for newcomers can become harder, where two types of cars with very different specifications compete side by side.
  • The two car classes can be compared to each other side by side, and put some extra edge to development – in other words; the same point as in pro’s above. So, why would this also be negative? Because the escalation of development could be speeded up by the teams wanting their Super2000 to get closer to WRCs, which would mean also an escalation of costs.

No matter if good or bad wins above, I think the decision is mainly good to the sport in longer terms. Let’s hope that manufacturers and teams take the chance to use 2010 for testing, so we can have really sharp competition starting immediately in 2011. Super2000 – here we come!

Volkswagen decides to defend Dakar title and puts WRC plan on hold

Monday, March 9th, 2009

Volkswagen has announced they’re gonna defend their title in Dakar – meaning their previously rumoured entry in the WRC is put on hold. After the decision one month ago by Mitsubishi to pull out, many people expected VW to do the same – something that obviously didn’t happen. Maybe VW have now decided to wait for the new class coming after Super2000, believed to be based on a 1,6l engine with turbo?

No matter what, Volkswagen will make at least one more try in Dakar – meaning that the former WRC champion Carlos Sainz will get one more chans to win the desert rally – and also that the WRC will have to wait before the German brand gets into the championship.

Are FIA changing their mind about the 2010 techical regulations?

Tuesday, February 17th, 2009

In connection to the FIA and Max Mosley arranged meeting between FIA, ISC, manufacturers and organisers in Paris this week regarding the marketing and promotion of the WRC – discussions regarding the techical regulations for 2010 are also scheduled later this week. The 12th of December last year, the World Motorsport Council decided that Super2000+ will be the World Rally Car of the future – starting from 2010 (read more on FIA.com). However, they postponed the decision regarding the exact look of the plus-package, because they wanted to modify it to ensure cost reductions. According to Autosport.com, FIAs strong intention is to ensure a real cost-cut from today’s expensive bills for competing the WRC, and they want it as a kit possible to add or remove to a Super2000 car in almost no time.

Now, it has taken some time since the decision in December, and I know that FIA have recieved critism – which makes sense – for taking too much time before a final decision is made. Manufacturers have to decide regarding their involvement in the WRC and then develop the car and package needed to compete. You can’t expect it to take just a few monts – since we of course want highly dedicated manufacturers that all keep a high level close to each other.

So now, it seems like FIA may change their previous decision – and there are a few possible ways to go. One is to allow for the old-fashioned WRC cars in the championship even in 2010. But then, they wouldn’t back on Super2000+ – instead they seem to want to make it a combo. This was also indicated when WRC.com made their roundup of rule changes going into the 2009 season, as they wrote the following:

“The World Rally Car era is coming to an end. This season will be the last that this type of vehicle will compete alone at the top level of the sport. 2010 will be a transitional season when a new specification of World Rally Car, based on a Super 2000 vehicle, will compete alongside the existing machinery. From 2011, however, the Super 2000 based model will take over completely.”

Another option is to go for the common Super2000 from next year, without the additional expenses of the Super2000+ package. In a recent interview in Autosport Max Mosley admits that the Subaru and Suzuki redrawals from the WRC may have caused people to change their opinions on wether the plus package should be introduced or not – despite the fact that the WMSC explicitly decided not to go on with the plain Super2000 spec in December. He opens for the possibility to go for a pure Super2000 specification without an additional package.

My opinion is that keeping the WRC cars in 2010 would be tough. They have a better performance than Super2000+ cars – and who would like to run a car doomed to lose? Also, it could cause even the Super2000+ cars to be overdeveloped and expensive, in the crazy chase for milliseconds that costs so much money in today’s WRC. I don’t know how it could be done smoothly – but I’ve also heard indications that Citroen, one of the championship’s most loyal manufacturers – expect to run the 2010 WRC with their C4WRC, so FIA may be in a difficult situation.

To me it makes most sense to skip the plus package on the Super2000 cars and make it a pure and really cheap formula that would probably attract quite a few manufacturers already from the beginning. Citroen would hopefully accept that – even since they don’t expect to take their Super2000(+) car into competition until 2011. Regarding the fans, I’m convinced that people’s interest and heart in the sport doesn’t come from – or depend on – a few horsepowers or km’s more or less – or the turbo. It depends on sideways action, nice sound and the fights between the best drivers on demanding surfaces – and that’s not a problem with Super2000. What we really need that we will also get (at least closer to) with Super2000 is a lot of manufacturers all on a good level that keeps the competition on top – and the end of the era where Citroen and Loeb can win everything almost without resistance.

Note: The next World Motorsport Council meeting, deciding about the 2010 technical regulations, will be held in March.

Interview: Patrik Flodin has turned struggling into success and looks forward to Rally Norway

Tuesday, February 10th, 2009

After calling Patrik Sandell and PG Andersson asking some questions regarding Rally Norway, the turn went on to Patrik Flodin. Just arrived to the hotel after a long day recceing out on the stages, Patrik answered some questions about his tests earlier this week in Lima, Rally Norway and the future.

First thing, he saw plenty of snow today:

- It’s a lot of snow, but not very much ice. I guess it will show up some gravel during the rally, but it looks wonderful at least. We had no problems at all during the recce, besides having a really long day after doing the drive down to Oslo to recce the arena stage there. Now we’re back in Lillehammer again, have just had some dinner and are going for an early night before going out on the recce again tomorrow, says Flodin.

Flodin drives for the Uspenskiy World Rally Team, based in Russia. A few days ago they were testing in Lima – just over the border in Sweden from Norway. The end was happy – but Patrik was really struggling during the test:

- The start wasn’t really good… The new tyres made everything really slippery and it took quite a while before we found out a setup that worked out well. As soon as you got a little bit off track or tried to cut corners just a little it got really slippery and I felt that I totally lost the car – and it wasn’t even a lot of loose snow. The old tyres had much more sideways grip. One things that’s sure is that it wont be fun at all to the first few WRC cars this weekend, and Loeb will for sure lose time the first day.

Present at the test were also Mikkelsen, who has stepped in as Patrik’s teammate for Rally Norway. I wondered if they compared times – but Patrik is so cool he didn’t even bother:

- I guess the team can compare us in the log, but who cares? Anyone can go fast on one single test road. We’ll see when the rally starts.

Coming to Norway Flodin gets into a real “nest of wasps”. Patrik Sandell has a car that proved really fast in Monte Carlo and Eyvind Brynhildsen among with Flodin’s teammate Mikkelsen must be counted as the main concurrents – but Flodin will look out even for other names:

- Both Prokop and Arai have made good times from time to time and the competition in my class will be really tough. I want to win the class, absolutely, that’s my goal going into the rally!

To us following rally closely, it has been quite obvious that Patrik have had a hard time for a while. Patrik does agree, but he’s also got a feeling things have changed and looks bright on the future:

- It has been tough for quite a while, but it has turned again. I think it started to get better last summer and after a good autumn and now three rally victories in a row I’ve got my self-confidence back. It feels good again!

So, with a drive secured for Uspenskiy for the rest of the 2009 season and a good feeling going into the car – how do Flodin look on his future? He has already stated that the Uspenskiy team is really good, but what about the dream of WRC? Is it still there, is he happy with group N – or is he looking for Super2000?

- I’m more looking at Super2000 than the WRC. This year is really important to me, to show that I can do great results for the team all the time. Then I guess you’ll have to wait and see what happens. There seems to be many teams going into Super2000, so maybe one could get a drive next year for at least a reasonable amount of money.

So, conclusion after this interview is that we hopefully will see Patrik doing good results in the PWRC – and maybe a Super2000 drive next year. Personally I think that it went to fast for him a few years ago when he outpaced the concurrence in the Swedish Championship and then went straight on into an international career and a few WRC drives. Now he have had time to gain some experience and cool down, and hopefully he can get the flow back – but now on a higher level. He is just 24, so there is no need to hurry!

Subaru getting into the IRC? Boring…

Monday, February 9th, 2009

Subaru seems to be close to a confirmation of a challenge in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge with their group N version of the Impreza rally car. I love the IRC and the news is of course really good for them – since it in principle means beating the WRC when a team leaves the WRC to join the IRC just a few months after.

However, there is one problem… And that is that it underlines the development of rallying going to a mode where drivers have to pay to drive – not the opposite. I guess Subaru sees this as an opportunity to get exposure in a large, international rally championship that is cheaper than the WRC – but on top of that they wont have to pay everything themselves. Few of the IRC drivers are paid to drive, and I’m quite sure Subaru looks forward to recruit drivers paying for their participation in the team. Quite a difference to the Subaru World Rally Team where Petter Solberg got paid more than 6.000.000 € per year.

That’s the danger with the IRC and also with the new Super2000 regulations of the WRC. In a short term perspective, we can get more manufacturers into the championships and into rallying by reducing costs. But in a long perspective – will it be positive to the sporting values to have the best paying drivers in the championships instead of the best driving? I don’t think so, and I think the risk is obvious. Don’t get me wrong – with the right implementation it can be really good, and I think Super2000 is the only realistic way to go for the WRC. But anyway, that’s why I’m split considering a Subaru entry in the IRC – even since I would love to see the cars competing…

MML Motorsports trying to get some buzz

Friday, February 6th, 2009

In an article in Crash.net, I can see John Easton, former team manager of RalliArt Europe trying to get some buzz out there regarding his new company MML Motorsports. MML seems to have taken over the Lancer WRCs and they’re also doing some kind of Evo X project in group N. Besides that, John speks warmly about their ability to build a brand new WRC car from scratch.

So, if they need buzz – I thought I should help. :) No, of course I’m joking. But facts are that MML is built upon the competence from RalliArt Europe, a team that I think holds a lot of competence and potential. Maybe it’s not likely – but I really hope that MML can assist one or another car brand to get into the sport with a Super2000 car…

Al-Attiyah negotiating with Skoda – may bring Tina Thörner back into the WRC

Monday, February 2nd, 2009

Nasser Al-Attiyah from Qatar, reigning FIA Baja Champion, did a decent run in this years Dakar before missing out on some waypoints because of technical problems, that later on made the organisers exclude him and Swedish co-driver Tina Thörner from the rally. However, besides rally raid Al-Attiyah is also a very experienced competitor in the PWRC – and now he want’s to come back there. Currently he is negotiating with Skoda with the aim to do the full PWRC championship 2009 in a Skoda Fabia Super2000.

Nasser has previously been co-driven by different people – but this time Tina Thörner would be his choice. Tina is a unique profile and her co-driver career started already in 1990. She has gone with different drivers in both rally raid and WRC, including legendary names as Ari Vatanen, Colin McRae, Jutta Kleinschmidt and this years Dakar winner Giniel DeVilliers.

So, let’s hope that Al-Attiyah, Thörner and Skoda get their pieces together. To start in Norway is too late, but for PWRC you can exclude two events of the year – so that’s not a problem. To see them going into the PWRC could make up for a decent fight and comparison with Thörner’s countryman Patrik Sandell – who drives Skoda for the Red Bull Team. Taking into account that also Flodin competes in the PWRC with the Uspenskiy Rally Team, it would mean three Swedes able to fight in the PWRC top.